@reaverlation: We've had those ridiculous arguments before. Broly stomps Cell. So he is Multi Planetary, maybe Star level Max. Which we know isn't the case. Claiming one group is better at translating another's language than that other group is completely false, as is claiming it's more accurate. Broly is a guy to take attacks head on, opposed to dodging or blocking. Goku was only a Super Saiyan and once he got the energy from everyone, his power level was a bitover Brolys, thus making Goku stronger than Broly and Goku defeating Broly. Since it's still 1/4th of the Universe containing a quarter of all matter and energy in the universe, that's still 25billion galaxies at bare minimum. If I eat a plate of cookies and there's crumbs left on the plate, does that mean there are still cookies? Please remember this for the future. King Kai's reaction is immediate. First movie Broly (Broly - The Legendary Supersaiyan) vs Cell (Perfect Cell). Did Broly's Attack light up the Macrocosm? Again you're bringing up poor animation with limited tech and a limited budget. Reminder that South Galaxy is an entire quadrant of the universe and not a galaxy. Brolly slaughters them every time. Before that, Goku was able to swing Cooler by his tail, but then after, his attacks were blocked and avoided and even with a Kaio-Ken charge, Cooler easily tanked a punch and then when Goku went Kaio-Ken fist mode, he was still tanking them before Cooler just overpowered him and sent him into the ground. Not your feefee's. Which is to say...no. @dbzk1999: Not really, from what I'm seeing, they were trading blows in IT mode, but Cooler was still better. Cell fought Super Saiyan 2 Gohan who is much more impressive than any version of the Z - Fighters Broly has conflicted with. super perfect cell's best feat is being a solar system buster. Really hard to quantify. It's exactly the same thing as claiming that if I eat a sandwich and there's crumbs left on the plate, then I didn't eat the whole thing and the sandwich still exists. Didn't Broly no-sell a kamehameha that Cell got his upper body annihilated by? Broly stands no chance. And once again, saying "there's something left therefore it didn't happen" doesn't work here. Yet none of this aligns with the story leading up to this point. And employs the same failed logic as the rest of the haters loafing around here. Broly is also no where near Cells level. Broly's only feat in the movie was stomping a weaker SSJ2 Gohan, who was stead to be weaker than his Kid self. M8 Goku would be weaker than 50% MSSJ Goku. There being remnants left over doesn't change the fact that, by an large, the South Galaxy has been annihilated. You quite clearly act as though you are using author intent, as well as claiming that the Subtitles are also accurate. Broly still stomps, both rounds, casual galaxy buster vs solar system buster, @dratini1331: Umm other than electricity hair style also slightly changes in SSJ2, SS1 Goku in Broly movie >>>>>>>>SS2 Gohan from canon, broly blew up a entire galaxy while cell threatened to destroy the solar system so broly stomps. You claim it was done in 20yrs, and bring no proof of it. There are tons of grammar and subbing errors in all of media and claiming that the old Broly subs are truer than any other is absolute nonsense. First, that's an opinion. Not some type of Radioactive Element, aka Kryptonite. Movie 10 wins in a nice fight, movie 8 Broly gets one Shoted. Lol. No prep. And he still says Broly was the strongest. Cell. Zenkai boosts were meant to make Saiyans strong enough to become Super Saiyan. Because the Feats contradict the Out-Of-Universe Statements (Not Narration, not the same thing) the "Author's Intent" of Broly being the Strongest, falls into Death of the Author: an author's intentions should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. I was kind of being sarcastic when I made that comment. So...no, Broly is still stronger. Especially since, as I've pointed out before, Broly performs this feat while as a Suppressed Super Saiyan. Radiation is not Ki. No damage whatsoever. Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan >> Grown up Gohan, Trunks and Goten. I just need to prove that it wasn't all done in 1 Attack, which I have already done 3 times now above, with Narration and Art both supporting my claim. So the same guy who created Janemba and Broly, still says Broly is the strongest. Now, SSJ2 Adult Gohan is weaker than when he fought Cell and was overwhelmed by Movie 10 LSSJ Broly (who should be much stronger than he was in Movie 8 since he tanked a planet-killing comet / star). Thats all it took. Galaxies are so huge that their spin could not be perceived like that in such a short amount of time. @king_stranglehold_da_first: And the delusions continue. Crumbs. TakenStew22. Zilch. 0 1. In the 90's, that's a hell of a lot of money to dump into a project. Going by the same logic, Broly still already did more than just shake something harmlessly. Which is a big ball of plasma created by nuclear fission generating all manner of heat and radiation. *Cell, initially, had a large edge over SS Goku. Narration that doesn't fit the visuals nor the dub dialogue and the same still image you keep throwing in over and over that has been discredited time and again that you refuse to acknowledge as having happened. @takenstew22: Movie Goku isn’t canon Goku so that’s fine. And by all logic, the Dub would be just as accurate and canon as the Sub, if not more so since you need a finalized Script to be used. The answer was pretty easy and obvious. 4. Regardless, as series to movies counterparts, I generally just place them around the same level, with M8 Broly being equal to Perfect Cell, and M10 Broly being maybe slightly stronger than Super Perfect Cell. It would take a billion years for a galaxy to complete one single rotation and so if we went by that then the time frame we see at the beginning of the movie would suggest a passage of some 200million years. Broly upon reaching Legendary SSJ form God Stomped Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks, & Piccolo all at the same time. And even then, Gohan, at one point, is physically overpowers Broly, when he broke out his hold. That hater rant has, itself, been debunked numerous times. In his First appearance, LSSJ Broly may as well have been a Super Saiyan 2 (even though he categorically wasn't) by virtue of him being Out of Context for 4 SSJ level characters. Which means the power he used to destroy the South Galaxy is considerably less than his maximum. Again you have no proof it was 20yrs or anything like that. He destroy multiple galaxies in the South quadrant in restricted ssj form in movie 8 . Broly still stomps even if you don't think he's galaxy level. That's not an assumption. Last time I checked, Fighters sensed each other's Ki, location tracking, rather than following their paths of destruction. It really annoys me how much people overestimate Brolys power, I mean there's people who think he's SSJ4 level. @king_stranglehold_da_first: well to reikai broly can defeat Ultimate Gohan and SSJ Vegito so good luck reasoning with him, @king_stranglehold_da_first: well to reikai broly can defeat Ultimate Gohan and SSJ Vegitoso good luck reasoning with him, @dratini1331: Well if he put time into him yeah.Buu is whatever to me as I prefer Cell as favorite DB villain.GT is not worth mentioning and the Cell Games should've finished DBZ but hey fans wanted Goku back so it's whateves. Cell could level a solar system easily. Broly vs. Hatchiyak vs. Super Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Ssj2 Teen Gohan This is Broly from Movie 10 Who wins? And yes, bolding does help when certain persons seem incapable of understanding what's being said. That's called Assuming Author's Intent.We've already gone over this. Cell stomps harder than a abusive foster parent. Him being able to destroy a galaxy over time is consistent with Cooler’s blowing up a star several movies prior. Trunks blast did very minimal in the struggle. Super Saiyan 2 Goku is the only more powerful one and he destroyed Broly so there's no point calling it more impressive if he lost horribly. Get over it. What this does is further prove my point. Yikes. Shown, stated by the Narrator, and confirmed in-character. Any other explanation has been thwarted already. His power clearly is not maximum as he dies. He was gaining the upper hand until Goku went Super Saiyan 2, then Broly got destroyed. Cell easy unless its second coming broly but cell would still win but not easy. I'm referring to him being MSSJ in the beam struggle, which is NOT debatable, as we can clearly see his MSSJ bangs. umm im not sure but probably cell because broly just srtikes me as some freak on steroids. He didn’t destroy it all once but he did destroy it, and that’s not debatable. It's not hard to figure out Cell would massacre Broly. Which would state that he's destroying far more than that in far less time. He was able to destroy most of south galaxy in under 40 years. It took a weakened Goku with the power of Piccolo, Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan to kill Broly, whereas it took a weakened Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Piccolo, Goku and Vegeta to kill Cell. He's one guy, Cell has the cells of multiple genius fighters like Goku, Piccolo and Frieza. Cell wasn't hurt by Vegeta's blast he was simply distracted by it. It's nonsense and it's been debunked countless times over. None. They've done Majin Vegeta and SS2 Goku against Brolly. Perfect Cell held back a LOT against Goku. You could literally create the same effect in MSPaint. No? It's obvious he'd be the better fighter. Lowballed, the absolute minimum DC for that is very very very very high multi-solar system assuming he doesn’t eat sleep or do anything else. 2. It doesn't because they're different Goku's. Ah yes, you mean the "star level" Kamehameha? Second, the Dub is a Secondary Source that often makes mistakes due to the Japanese and English languages not working nicely together. (2) King Kai didn't believe Super Saiyans were real until Goku turned into one. Counter: Where is SPC/Vegito/Gogeta/Hirudegarn/Hatchyect/Janemba/Shenron busting a galaxy? @coolmeham: Hello, welcome to CV. lol??? SSJ3 Goku also managed to Shake a Universe-Sized Dimension: Meaning, by FEATS, Super Gogeta > Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku > Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. Sep 25, 2011 #3 So, at the end of the day, you're still wrong. LSSJ Broly is stronger than that and SSJ Broly in movie 10 is equal to lssj movie 8. There wasn't really much of a fight in either instances between the two anyhow. In the buu saga, Vegeta states that Gohan had gotten much weaker. Just gonna clear up some things posted in this thread. And the Author's intent, as indicated by the Author himself, said; "Broly is the strongest". No, it's a fact. He was overwhelmed by a ki attack from 3 SSJs and subsequently killed. We don't even have figures for how much the animation cost for the original Dragon Ball Z films. Start from 30 feet. It would take millions of years to move that much. First of all, Gohan was not at 50% of power. Digital computers and animation software today make the process far simpler, but also far more generic. I think Broly still wins. Cell stomps Broly into a bloody paste. Dude in the movie whether it be the English or Japanese(original) version, the South Galaxy was STILLthere. You claiming it's an opinion doesn't make it so. There's no point in making the comparison between the Gohan's they fought. @huey_freeman34: I agree person off of boondocks I think cell win ( the argument above was for cell). 0 0. But if this is TFS Broly, he shit stomps even harder because his power is MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The attack Broly made on the Southern Galaxy was so intense that outlying worlds on the fringes of it had been irradiated in his energy. Cell murderstomps the overhyped Legendary Super Saiyan. I understand this argument, and while it is possible, it isn't enough to prove your claim any more than mine. Great thinking whoever made this forum. The movie took place in the same galaxy he apparently destroyed (you could still see hundreds of stars & planets), and several Japanese translations stated that he was destroying the galaxy, not that it has been destroyed. You're literally trying to say that the Creator of these characters is wrong about the things he himself created. That's also how we ended up with GT, so go figure. Super Perfect Cell takes out one of Gohans arms with one blast and only loses the beam struggle because he gets blasted by another person. 1 decade ago. Cell is Stronger.Goku beat broly but he dident beat cell.super perfect cell has much more power than broly LSS. SS2 is nothing to Brolly, as evidenced. Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan >> Grown up Gohan, Trunks and Goten. Once the Saiyan becomes Super, Zenkai boosts never happen anymore. Plus, it says the data Suggests it's about that size, not that it's provably true. These are two guys goku couldn't beat (on his own anyway) borrowing others power to beat broly and having gohan beat cell so which villain is better? Yes. And just a reminder, if he left behind 0.1% of south quadrant there’d still be a multiple galaxies worth of stars and planets. Uhh....sorry to go off on a tangent lol, back to the thread at hand. Did Gogeta's light show actually hurt anything? Now that that's cleared up, who wants icecream? You can pull as much BS as you want and won't get you nuthin. Did you see them open up Microsoft Paint and do it? Trunks blast did very minimal in the struggle. It's stated Gohan's stronger as a teenager and it's pretty obvious Teen Gohan is stronger than the kids. both are similar in power, Super Perfect Cell is a SSJ2 tier fighter, LSSJ brolly was killed after Goku absorbed everyone Power while in SSJ1. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. (3) If there were other Saiyan survivors, and were doing the things Paragus and Broly were doing, he'd have mentioned them long before now. The event is Shown, directly. Which was one attack expanding outward. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. You said it took Broly 20yrs to destroy South Galaxy. Also it was only for Saiyans with near death, if they die and revive they don't receive one. We see the galaxy being wiped out. 0 0. Gohan's punch did NOTHING to broly. The remnants of systems on the very outermost edges of what used to be the Southern Quadrant. There's no question here. The one with the highest power level always wins. And much cheaper. Lighting Up a Macrocosm is still way more energy than Busting a Galaxy though. It's stated Gohan's stronger as a teenager and it's pretty obvious Teen Gohan is stronger than the kids. But we know that's not true since he still eats and sleeps. This time Both ,Broly and Paragus have survived the fight against the Z warriors (Movie 8). lol. Any other explanation has Broly moving at quintillions times the speed of light to complete this or firing just as many attacks in every conceivable direction and accurately hitting every planet, star, nebulae, etc etc, giving him cognitive prowess the likes of which the Angels would be jealous of. If we want to bring in real world science into it then it could not have been destroyed in the literal time frame of seconds as visually depicted since we see the galaxy spinning. 1 decade ago. Goku later convinced him that he wasn't really down to 50% and only thought he was, which made SSJ2 Gohan put his full power (what he … @wolfrazer: I'm talking about when you see goku catching a couple of cooler's punches, Anyways, my overall point is that base saiyans fighting in their base really doesn't mean anything, If you insist that gohan not getting stomped by broly is of any importance, then I hope you know that gohan DOES state that he's gotten stronger than he was 7 years ago. Bio Broly was an abomination, Imperfect Cell's left foot could beat him. Cell has returned as Super Perfect, and wants to kill Brolly for stealing … In DBZ its a bit different from comics. Nothing you believe changes that. Well then, how can you prove it required more energy when you can't calculate or prove distance and no way of quantifying destructive potential when nothing was damaged by this. Agreed their fanwanking is unbelievable. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. @eredin12: The only Movies that scale to GT are the ones that don't contradict the main timeline in terms of scaling and storyline and can fit in. That implies that MSSJ Goku, who thought he could take SSJ Broly, is Galaxy-Level. The #1 Kunoichi. Not referenced by a character. Idk how you can think Broly can win this. @mezame: There are characters in GT who can destroy dimensions so that statement isn't entirely true. Remember Gohan went SSJ2 against broly in the second movie and he got his ass kicked. Yeah, I like Proof. Cell could easily do that if he wanted to, it's not like Broly one-shotted the entire galaxy, he went around blowing planet after planet. Bender Bite my shiny metal ass! What does M10 Broly vs Super Perfect Cell got to do with anything? Using science to debunk Dragon Ball's bs. And already explained before, the attack was a Literal Miracle because the Writers wrote themselves into a corner. It took that many people to put him down, including a Super Saiyan 2, whereas it took a bunch of beat down people fused into a Super Saiyan to beat Broly. He also has more techniques and abilities than Broly. The rate of spin wouldn't be visible to human perception over the course of seconds. Super Perfect Cell vs Broly would result in a stomp. Still strong enough for Goku to lock onto with Instant Transmission. Second, Gohan never went Super Saiyan 2 in either Broly movies, so I don't see why people are saying such a thing. @wolfrazer: neither was goku against meta cooler, Neither were the saiyans against the androids, In other words, toei has them fight in base just to add up drama. The answer was pretty easy and obvious. MSSJ Goku, who lost against Perfect Cell. My claim actually rests on what we are actually shown, combined with Context Clues from the Original Sub. Restricted Broly vs. SS2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell-Bloodlusted-Movie 8 Broly, end of Cell Saga Gohan and Cell-Win by death. So Cell should win both match-ups, given the gap in skill. Broly stomps and it isn’t even close. BTW, I guess we are Bolding and Capitalizing certain Words to make them look more Important now. For One,(1) King Kai had no idea Goku was a Saiyan until Goku told him. I mean Base Gohan vs SSJ Broly, Gohan avoided Broly's attack and deflected a hit, Broly got in one hit, Broly than fired an attack which Gohan deflected back which then Gohan used a barrier to protect Goten/Trucks/Videl from the explosion. Don't understand how Broly is put so high.At best he can defeat SPC but I would wage SSJ2 Goku or Majin Vegeta can beat him.Broly IMO is just an awful character, Not a major Broly fan but I think due to the fact that Cell's limit has been specified which is SSJ2 while Broly was defeated it really wasn't through any power up and fight means if that makes sense all that can be said for sure is that he can walk over a SSJ to know for sure though a battle between SSJ2 teen gohan and him is necessesary to assess his true strength level against cell's Broly may take it but it won't be that easy cell may very well take him in the end. No evidence that it's universe sized, plus the Quadrants, N/S/E/W Galaxy, make up the sum total of the Physical Universe. Super Perfect Cell is stronger than Teen SS2 Gohan & gohans power level was way over 300,000,00 so .. & broly's is what? They're separate. Whereas the Sub is literally Translated by Japanese People in the Studio at the same time of release. 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